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general barr is expected to release the top conclusions to congress today, but will it be enough to satisfy lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who are calling for complete transparency. >> i think the report needs to be made public. it needs to be released to the congress and it needs to be released to the american people. this has consumed two years of the american people's time and we need to have full transparency. i will say i'm concerned that it may have become a fishing expedition. we'll see when we see the report. >> this report is going to have to be made public, and of equal importance, the underlying evidence is going to have to be shared with congress because that evidence not only goes to the issue of criminality but also goes to the issue of compromise. remember, this began as a counter-intelligence investigation into whether people surrounding the president or the president himself were compromised by a foreign power. and there is still a lot of reason to be concerned about this president's relationship with russia and putin.
>> president trump is spending the day golfing again at his trump tower. you'll see him finishing on the golf course there. he is finishing up his weekend at mar-a-lago. we've covered the story for nearly two years now. let's go to sara murray. so bill barr and the deputy ag, rod rosenstein, together at the justice department. how are they working out these conclusions? >> they're at work still poring over this. there was a chance they would have the top lines to congress yesterday. it didn't happen but it is going to happen today. this isn't about copying and pasting the top conclusions and sending it on. they're trying to determine what they want to make public. they know there are these big outstanding questions. people want to know why the
special counsel decided he did not want to push for an interview with the president of the united states. he only got answers to written questions. the doj guidelines say you can't indict the president, but is he guilty of collusion and obstruction of justice? those are the top questions. what you can be sure of is rod rosenstein, bill barr, robert mueller, they are not living in a vacuum. also voters who have seen this drive on for two years saying we want to know more rather than less. that are lawmakers who want to see the entire report and all the underlying findings but you could see top lines that are pretty substantive. they might try to give lawmakers a little more on the front end and then say, come back to us with your questions after that rather than a single-page document that says, here are five bullet points. >> will they weigh the sentiment that's been expressed by many lawmakers unanimously, all house congressional members, as well as voters that they want to see
and hear it all? >> i think they have to weigh that, and i think when we saw bill barr go through his confirmation process, he was saying he wants to be as transparent as the justice department guidelines allow him to be. it remains unclear what that means. but he knew when he was going through this confirmation process that this report was going to fall into his lap, and ultimately it would be up to him what to divulge. they were grappling with writing this report, and one thing bill barr realizes and rod rosenstein, too, they probably realize the bulk of this report in some fashion will be made public. it may take a long political and legal fight to get there, but i'm sure they had that in mind in this process as well. >> keep us posted as you learn more, sara. thank you so much. let's check in with senior congressional correspondent manu raju on capitol hill. some lawmakers are waiting for the details of this report. feinstein's office said they expected this to be maybe in written form, maybe in e-mail.
what more are you learning? >> staffers are in the house and congressional committee. they are the first to get a copy of this summary of robert mueller's conclusions. but already democrats are launching a preemptive attack of sorts against that move, saying that's certainly not going to be enough for them. they expect a fight to play out in the days and weeks ahead if they don't get what they want. all the underlying evidence supporting bob mueller's conclusions, why he prosecuted some individuals, why he didn't prosecute other individuals, what was the reasoning behind not subpoenaing the president for a sit-down interview, how the president responded to those questions that he was asked in written form. they want all those answers, and they are warning they could subpoena for the full mueller report and for the underlying evidence if it's not given to congress and if it's not made
public. jerry nadler, the house judiciary chairman, made the case today on "state of the union" and his counterpart on the other side said, hold on, justice department, maybe you should think first before providing all this information. >> well, we'll try to negotiate and we'll try everything else first, but if we have to, yes, we'll certainly issue subpoenas to get that information. >> and you're going to be willing to take that all the way up to the supreme court if you have to? >> absolutely. >> it's not the department of justice's job to give chairman nadler or any committee in the house, the senate for that matter, to go off on a purely partisan investigation to lead toward impeachment. >> in the last congress, the republican house-led judiciary committee did get many documents, hundreds of thousands of documents, e-mails and the like, as part of their investigation into what they believed was fbi wrongdoing and how it carried out the clinton e-mail investigation. they said that should apply here in the russia investigation and
they believe the mueller report will be a road map of sorts on how they pursue their investigations over the coming two years. the democrats say their investigations are only just beginning even as robert mueller's investigation has come to an end. fred? >> manu raju, keep us posted. thank you so much. while we brace for the russia report, the president has been quiet on social media as he has spent the last two days golfing in his club in california. he se -- in florida. he tweeted, good morning, have a great day. how optimistic. cnn's white house correspondent bo rir ork boris sanchez joining us from west palm beach in mar-a-lago. the white house has not been briefed on this mueller report, but sources say the president is happy with this investigation, that it's over now, at least.
>> reporter: yeah, that's right, fred. according to a senior official, neither the president or anyone in the white house has been briefed on the contents of the mueller report at this point. they don't have a copy of it, either. from what we understand, sources close to the president and aides of mar-a-lago say that he's in a good mood. for the second time this weekend, he was spotted heading to the trump national golf course here in palm beach. yesterday he spent the day go golfing with kid rock. he voiced some uncertainty about what attorney general william barr may do with the final findings from robert mueller. still, though, as i said before, the president has shown no sign of any anxiety or any doubt about what may come from this synopsis from bill barr. we heard from sources at mar-a-lago that the president was being briefed by two of his
attorneys, pat scipaloni and martin flood, who traveled here this weekend. t privately, though, we have heard some sources express a sense of vindication and joy. one source telling cnn that the fat lady has sung and we won, fred. >> all right. boris sanchez, thank you so much. appreciate that from west palm beach. with me right now cnn crime investigative reporter shimon prokupecz. good to see both of you. we don't know how much of the report will be revealed to congress. we know lawmakers want to see all of it. and kara, we also know the white house has not seen this report. we're being assured of that. but we know the white house just might want to exert executive privilege. how would it go about doing that? >> that's right. pamela brown has reported that the white house does expect to
have a look at this report to be able to exert executive privilege. there are two ways you can do that about national security or the private deliberations. the concern that lawmakers have and the house judiciary chairman jerry nadler said earlier on "state of the union" that they can't do it if they're trying to hide some kind of wrongdoing. so there is a lot of tension there. and there is a historical precedent, republican and democratic presidents have exerted executive privilege over the years. the justice department generally believes in that principle and has defended it. but this is where we could end up teeing itself up to a legal battle if the application of executive privilege by the white house is very broad. >> right. what would be the other reason why they would want to exert executive privilege if not to prevent information that is incriminating, you know, to the white house and to the president? >> right. they could have national security concerns if there is some information there they feel letting congress know about,
letting the public know about would be damaging. or certain private deliberations or policy considerations. unless it's the same as attorney-client privilege, the president has the ability to say these were private conversations that we had and that falls under the umbrella of executive privilege. >> shimon, that would seem to be the duty of the ag. >> i think he's very much aware. he's sitting in a room right now with the deputy attorney general. he's sitting in a room awith other lawyers. they're poring through it with aides involved in this investigation, so they know. i've been fairly optimistic since i've seen this letter that the attorney general sent to members of congress promising them that perhaps maybe this weekend he would have the principal conclusions, as he said, so i think we should all be optimistic until we see otherwise that we're going to see a lot more here than we expect. we saw a lot more in that letter. they know what they're dealing with, they know what they can put out. i think we're going to get as
much as they can possibly put out without hurting national security, without hurting future investigations that are very much still ongoing in other jurisdictions. and that, i think, is going to be the key. and i'm sure they're very sensitive to executive privilege. and perhaps maybe they're going to try, as much as they can, satisfy the public and satisfy members of congress. >> so besides getting to the bottom of things, transparency has also been at the root as to why even have this kind of mueller investigation, this mueller report. the ag, he's only been at the job for a month or two. there is a lot riding on his legacy and how he carries out this job, but he was asked about this transparency during confirmation hearings and this is what he had to say. >> i also believe it is very important that the public and congress be informed of the results of the special counsel's work. my goal will be to provide as much transparency as i can consistent with the law. >> so, kara, as much as i can consistent with the law.
sara murray back with us, too. how loyal is he to those words? >> there is a policy in the justice department that if someone has not been indicted of a crime or accused of a crime, they don't reveal the details of that. we all remember that in the hillary clinton investigation with james comey. so rod rosenstein, the deputy turned general, has been very clear he does not want to repeat that episode. he is insistent that's a policy he believes has lots of merit. so i believe walking that line of not revealing damaging information about people, respecting the executive privilege where they think it applies. but i do think there is a lot of pressure both from the american public and from bipartisan members of congress that the american people should see this report. it's two years of investigation. >> you can still reveal a lot of facts without being james comey and going out there and saying someone acted recklessly, without editorializing. we've certainly seen the special
counsel and their team do that in the way they put out their indictments. chock full of detail beyond what you would need in a typical indictment to tell your story and be able to do what you're able to do. they are crafting what they're willing to put out publicly and he is obviously very thorough in the work we've seen so far, and i think we could expect something similarly thorough when we see these from the attorney general. >> the question here is, and what is on everyone's mind is how does he address the investigation into the president, the collusion investigation and the obstruction investigation. if there is no "there" there -- >> meaning bob mueller in his report. >> let's say he clears the president in whatever fashion they can do this in. there is a way for the department of justice to tell the american people, tell the public, we've done this investigation, we find nothing wrong here. we find this and basically we're done with our investigation.
they have done press conferences where they've cleared people, where they've ended investigations and not brought charges. that is how i think we're going to see this proceed. they're going to do as much as they can in explaining perhaps the central question to everyone on the collusion and the obstruction. >> there may be justification as to why there are no more reported indictments coming from this report, but that doesn't end or stop or perhaps even interrupt the dozen or so other investigations that have been spawned by this probe. >> that's right. those prosecutors are operating independently of robert mueller. they are pursuing their investigations just like they would if robert mueller didn't exist. i do think we can expect to see those continue, and we know that he has spun off several investigations but i don't think we really know the whole breadth of that. >> will there be an explanation, perhaps, in the report as to why information that was gathered in this probe might have been handed off to state districts? >> it probably would be. >> that's a great question
because people would be very interested to know. >> but why can't it be made public? if it's an ongoing investigation -- >> members of congress want to be privy to that information, even classified information. >> so there is probably a way to do that. i don't think they could do it openly to everyone, maybe to the committee heads, but understand there is a longstanding procedure and policy at the department of justice that they don't talk about ongoing investigations. so everything that's ongoing, such as what's going on in the southern district of new york, there may be cases here in washington, d.c., those are things they'll be reluctant to talk about with members of congress. >> so how might the department of justice be bracing itself for these subpoenas? members of congress are already threatening subpoenaing bob mueller or perhaps even the report. so then what, if anything, can the justice department do right now to either put up barriers to that or acquiesce?
>> i think they can be as transparent as possible in the initial top lines. it will at least show congress saying, we're not trying to hide this from you. the more at the outset the more comfortable members of congress will be. they are trying to play it straight and give them reasons why they prosecuted or declined to prosecute. beyond that, i think it will be a long legal fight. the white house will be fighting executive privilege for keeping things out, and the white house said they made a lot of things available when it came to hillary clinton's investigation. they made things available. they fought it but ultimately they handed a lot of things over to the hill. if this goes to a judge and the judge says, why shouldn't you hand it over this time, you've done it before, that's something the doj has to think about. >> unless they're very happy
with what they see this afternoon, this report, or maybe they feel like the attorney general has cleared the president. maybe we get a whole different tone from the white house altogether. let's see how far this goes and how far william barr is willing to go to explain the president's vovrmt involvement in all of this. that's what everybody wants to know, how far does the attorney general go? >> we'll be following this today -- z >> we'll be here. much more on the mueller report and the political battle with congress. more after this. so recently my son's band was signed by a record label. while we're on the road, i can keep my parents in the loop with the whole facetime thing. i created a rockstar. (both laughing)
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principal conclusions of the mueller report. he spent some nine hours at the u.s. justice department yesterday analyzing the mueller report, and he is expected to release his conclusions to congress today. with me now, former u.s. attorney greg brower, who is also the assistant director for the office of congressional affairs, fellow of the election commission larry noble, sara murray and cnn legal analyst shan wu. shan, you first. what do you suppose is happening right now with the deliberations or shaping of the kind of message that should be going out today from barr and rosenstein meeting at the justice department? >> i think once they have digested it, they had to figure out what are the items they want to put out there. and then i think a lot of time would be spent parsing through it to eliminate classified
information, grand jury 6e material. i think they have to spend a lot of time making sure that's complete. >> the house voted to be completely transparent, let this report be shared with u.s. congress, with the american people. so how do you square the two? >> well, his first obligation now is to give a summary, basically a top-level summary of the report. that can be anything from i decided there were no indictments to issue to an explanation. from there we have to see what do they do? they accepted there will be national security deletions on it. i think there will be a fight about it but we'll have to see. one of the things he said was he believed in full disclosure within the law. >> within the law. >> within the law. >> what does that mean? >> that's a good question.
he can now say in the law i will give the top conclusions, i will give some analysis, but that's it. i'm not going to give you the evidence. or he could turn everything over. >> barr already had his own recommended or top conclusions. this attorney general is either going to shape his own or perhaps reshape what he's reading, you know, from mueller. what's our expectation? >> i mean, i don't think that bill barr is starting from scratch. i think that, you know, we've seen bob mueller be very kprens si -- comprehensive in the work he's done so far, and he's sitting with rod rosenstein that was involved in this probe from the beginning, and i think they're trying to reveal something that really does show the scope of the investigation, that they can hand something over to lawmakers that makes congress at least feel like they are being forthcoming in the decisions they made, whether they decided to prosecute, whether it's a decision not to pursue an interview with president trump, and they'll move on from there.
members of congress expected some kind of written summary of these top line findings. but maybe they will get a written summary as well as some kind of word from bill barr that says, and i'm happy to brief you guys in person again in the future. these people are not operating in a vacuum. they know that lawmakers are going to have more questions, and i have to imagine they're beginning to figure out how they're going to deal with those questions going forward. >> greg, attorney general barr, he's done this before as attorney general under president h.w. bush. he's overseen three other special counsel investigations. but a lot has happened between then and now, lessons learned. what might he be trying to avoid so as not to be scrutinized unnecessarily? >> despite his past experience, he's never confronted anything quite like this. this is unprecedented, uncharted waters. we have to remember there is no statute or regulation that provides precise guidelines for how the attorney general will handle this.
i think what we'll see is everything in washington is political. everything that is political is subject to negotiation. i think the department will do its best to provide as much transparency as it thinks is reasonable in this case. that likely won't be good enough for congress which will continue to push to get everything, and at the end of the day it's going to come down to a negotiation between doj with the white house likely weighing in in some way, especially with respect to executive privilege issues and congress. and at the end of the day, i think that more or less it will be seen as complete transparency as possible. >> so, larry, why would executive privilege, you know, that the white house be able to weigh in when it's the white house, the president, who is subject of the investigation. when we talk about negotiations, why isn't the negotiation just between the d.a. and congress? >> there is executive privilege. the president has the right to ask that they withhold anything that goes to basic decision making of the president, basic advice he gets.
but it's not absolute. the supreme court has already said there is really a public interest standard there also. if it involves a crime and it involves public interest, then executive privilege can be overwritten. so he can declare it. also i think there is a tendency of the president or anybody in the executive branch to call executive privilege. first you narrow that down to the real executive privilege issues, and then you decide whether the public interest is so demanding that it has to be released. it's not the end of the question where he says, i'm declaring executive privilege. >> sara, everyone on pins and needles, wanting to find out what's in the report, et cetera, et cetera. but this isn't the end. this is the beginning of other investigations that have come from this probe. >> first of all, it's what you were talking about in terms of legal issues. we're in early stages of a number of these other
investigations that essentially offshoot the mueller investigation. we've already seen the president's personal attorney go into a courtroom and implicate donald trump and prosecutors said we believe you did this at the president's instruction. we know there were investigations into the transition, the inauguration. this is something that the president worried about and that it would somehow touch his family and family business. you can't rule out the offshoot of this could do exactly that in the southern district of new york. the white house may feel very good about this today, but this is the kind of thing that could linger in the backdrop for years. >> so, shan, if this report explains why a prosecution or an indictment didn't happen, might it explain or justify why information may have been handed off to a state district so that it could pursue prosecution? >> i don't think he, mueller, would feel he needed to explain
the handoff. he might simply say the handoff was made. my theory on why you would hand that off is you may have a very strong false statements case, but you may feel it's not really substantively tied to a conspiracy with russia charge. then you would say that's appropriate to hand off. it's a crime but it's not close enough for us to spend the time for another two years to do it. >> thank you, all. appreciate it. you'll be back at this table momentarily as soon as more information comes in. thank you so much. up next, israeli president benjamin netanyahu vifrsits the white house tomorrow. what timing. and as the white house is rolling out the red carpet, how will the visit affect the long-time leader's election back home? more after this. how do you gauge the greatness of an suv?
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welcome back. i'm fredricka whitman in washington, d.c. where we continue to wait for the release of attorney general bill barr's summary from the mueller report. in the meantime, benjamin netanyahu is scheduled to meet with president trump tomorrow, just two weeks before tightly contested general elections in israel. netanyahu received a boost last week when president trump said publicly that israel should have full sovereignty over the israeli occupied golan heights. netanyahu is also set to address the pro-israel apec conference on tuesday. several democratic presidential
contenders stirred controversy when they announced they won't be attending the conference this year. senior diplomatic correspondent michelle krasinski is with me now. s michelle, why is that meeting with contenders so controversial? >> reporter: this apec conference, which is a normal occurrence here in d.c., it's big, almost 25,000 people will attend. it's a very powerful lobby. but the mood has been contentious throughout, and this conference now is going to highlight divisions in more ways than one. first of all, you have prime minister benjamin netanyahu visiting the u.s. just before his election. remember, president obama would not meet with him when he came to the u.s. because it was too close to his election. this time he'll be going to the white house, he will meet with president trump. president trump has thrown him a number of bones, you might call them large gifts. the golan heights announcement last week was just the latest
one. but his opposition, netanyahu's opponent waging a tough battle in israel is also going to be speaking at this conference. so you're going to see the stark difference in views there, and those views affect jewish people here in the states, too. then you're going to see the divisions highlighted, of course, between democrats and republicans here at home. you're right, most, if not all, of the democratic contenders for 2020 not going. the only possibility, really, is bill de blasio. he'll be speaking here. but the language that we've heard, too, on the issue of u.s. policy towards israel has been so divisive. younger democrats not going to this. they are saying the right wing views of netanyahu do not represent them, do not represent most american jews. and you heard beto o'rourke today on the campaign trail saying that president trump's language that he uses is something you would only hear
during nazi germany. and then you've heard president trump say that american democrats are anti-jewish and anti-israel. that was pushed back against in a hard way by democrats. beauty -- buttigieg, for example, pushing back on that saying not agreeing with the president doesn't make a person anti-israel or anti-jewish. then when he was asked why wasn't he going to apec this year, he said he didn't think he was invited. he indicated maybe he would go. in fact, a number of democrats are going to speak here. there is about ten of them on the schedule. you can see how divided the rhetoric has become on both sides, fredricka. >> thank you so much for that. as we wait for the release of the summary of bill barr on the mueller report, it seems like everyone has an opinion on
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mixed opinions. some believe this will finally pult thei put the issue to rest of so-called potential collusion in the election, and others say, really, they could still have more questions. >> i had hoped to learn whether or not there was collusion. obviously that's a really big deal. i want to know whether or not the president has been lying to the american people or concea ling very important information that we need to know. overall it's been a really big bui buildup and we're ready for the reveal. >> i can't see how this one report will put it to bed. there is so much smoke between obstruction of justice and collusion. i think that one word, collusion, is the buzz word that one side is trying to bang the drum and say, there is none of that, so we didn't do anything wrong, but there's just too many things going on, and i'm afraid the sitting president has struggles that were going to catch up to him from long before
he became president. >> i don't think there's anything to report yet until we know what we don't know. we don't know what's in it, right? does anybody yet? i mean, really? a couple guys, probably. >> reporter: off that point, when will we know what we don't know, as that gentleman just said here. something i did find interesting, fred, and i heard over and over again is that everyone seemed to agree, based on the people we talked to, that this debahas certainly led to m debate, but a big divide perhaps between those who support the president and those who have their concerns about the commander in chief. and there was much in common about the special counsel's ability to investigate this in a clear and objective way. >> did anyone express their thoughts about this no reported indictments from this mueller report even though we don't know the content of the report in its entirety yet? >> yes. as the gentleman said, we still don't know what we don't know.
however, there are some clues there that we can certainly walk away from and one of them is that key fact, that at this point we have no indictments that have come out of what we know so far, so that certainly made some people feel a little more comfortable or at least prepared we may not see anything extremely earth shattering when it comes to potential charges. however, they are still waiting and watching for those initial conclusions, fred. >> all right, polo sandoval, thank you so much. still ahead, senator kirsten gillibrand heads to trump tower right there in new york to launch her presidential bid in a very big way with her first rally. her strong words for her supporters and for the president right after this. and washington, and really you could say, the rest of the country, too, is on pins and needles as the top conclusions from the mueller report are expected to be delivered to congress from the nation's capitol today.
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all right, welcome back. this afternoon new york senator kirsten gillibrand delivered the first major speech of her presidential campaign, and she did it from the doorstep of one of president trump's hotels. >> we deserve a president who inspires us to stand for something greater than ourselves! look up at that tower! a shrine to greed, division and vanity! now look around you.
the greater strength by far is ours. >> senator gillibrand is one of the 14 candidates who have officially entered the 2020 democratic field. cnn national correspondent athena jones was there. athena, kirsten gillibrand wasting no time taking aim at the president, right out of the gate. >> reporter: that's right. this speech was about two things. it was senator gillibrand introducing herself to voters. a lot of folks still don't know who she is, and also taking on the president showing that she's not going to be afraid to take on the president. you may remember that last week in her announcement video, the theme was braver wi wins. so today she had folks representing her, folks who are d.r.e.a.m.ers, fighting for immigrant rights. she had her friend connie griffin who was an actress
representing her. the reason she held her rally at the trump tower is to bring the fight directly to president trump's doorstep. listen to what she said about him early in the speech. >> president trump is tearing apart the moral fabric of this country. he demonizes the vulnerable as he punches down. he puts his name on bold on every building. he does this because he wants you to believe he is strong. he is not! our president is a coward. >> reporter: so there you heard senator gillibrand calling president trump a coward. she also mentioned the news of the moment, which is the mueller report, saying that it must be made public. and she even made a joke about former president richard nixon saying, it isn't often that i
agree with richard nixon but i agree he was right to say the american people have a right to know whether or not their president is a crook. as i mentioned, fredricka, the senator also touched on other parts of the argument for her candidacy, something we've heard her, point she's brought up at all her stops on the campaign trail in the latest weeks and months, is that she beat the odds in upstate the last two months in office. this is a district where she won 2 to 1. she brought that up to show she can appeal to voters across the aisle. she also said she has the most anti-trump voting record of anyone who is running. we heard her touch on all those things, but she told the audience what she is for, not just against, but also things like medicare for all, something she's been backing since 2006. paid family leave, $15 minimum wage and democratic standards that she's going to be pushing
for during her candidacy. fred? >> athena, it looked like a fairly decent turnout there in new york, but what's next for her? >> reporter: well, it was a pretty good crowd, a few hundred people. nothing like the multiple thousands we've seen at some of the other launches, like we saw with senator kamala harris. that is the real point here, fred. there is a crowded field already, and senator gillibrand has so far struggled to catch on with voters to leave an impression. she's hovering around zero percent or 1% in polls, so she's trying to get her name and her ideas in front of more people. we'll see her hitting new hampshire and iowa again next month. fred? >> all right, athena jones, thank you so much in new york. still ahead, more on our breaking news coverage. the justice department report from robert mueller's investigation is expected to break at any moment. we'll have full team coverage from every angle. stay with us. i'm really into this car,
. hello again, everyone. thanks so much for being with me. at any moment now attorney general william barr is expected to release the main conclusions from the mueller report to congress. we are hearing that it is coming today. barr is at the u.s. justice department right now with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein reviewing the report. the president, well, he just returned to mar-a-lago just moments ago after spending the day at his golf club in west palm beach, florida while he, too, awaits the brief. cnn has a team of reporters and analysts standing by who have covered this story for nearly two years now. let's go to cakara scannell. the